More Take-Outs in 4-handed siteswaps

978-about, 975-about (holy grail about), tips and dreams

5 years ago Nicki wrote an excellent article summarising the progress which had been made on take-outs in 4-handed siteswaps: https://passing.zone/take-outs-in-4-handed-siteswaps/

There was some exciting progress made at the 2024 EJC, so I thought it was time for an update!

At Passout 2018/2019 in Krelingen Christian from Pittsburgh brought the idea of doing take-outs in a 4-handed siteswap and workshopped 726-about, “What’s that about?” and “Manège à trois” (786-about), which I really enjoyed. Christian also has a page summarising all the different takeouts in 4-handed siteswaps: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~ckaestne/takeouts.html

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9 Club Roundabout

9 Club Roundabout is the classic pattern Roundabout with 2 clubs added. The base pattern is 8 club 2 count on doubles.

It was first juggled for a two rounds by Lukas, Adrian and Cameron at a juggling club in London but they didn’t film it. At the 2023 EJC they finally got two rounds on film.

The pattern was first proposed by Cameron. There is a trick in 8 club 2 count on doubles where you throw a right handed quad self and your partner responds with a right handed single self. Cameron realised you could use this to add two clubs to lots of the classic, right handed, manipulator patterns. This is similar to/inspired by the way Triolar (a juggling trio focused on club passing consisting of Liza, Anna and Ronja ) realised you could add one club to roundabout by throwing a triple self in 7 club 2 count on doubles.

Cameron has vague memories of trying some of the “simplified roundabout” patterns from how to steal from your friends with 2 clubs added at the 2019 EJC with Andy (and someone else presumably). He also remembers trying one transition of 9 club roundabout at the Krelingen passout with Becky and Jon. He also got a few transitions with Danny and Brook at a Bath Upchuck, probably in 2019.

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Holy Grail About

Holy Grail About is a takeout pattern based on the 4-handed siteswap 975, also known as Holy Grail.

It was first juggled for a whole round at the 2024 EJC by Lukas, Adrian and Cameron.

According to Nicki’s article on takeout patterns in 4-handed siteswaps Christian predicted that a round of Holy Grail About would be thrown before the end of 2019, but it took until 2024!

After achieving a round Adrian, Lukas and Cameron decided this was they hardest takeout pattern they have done yet (and also the best crowd reaction to getting a round of a pattern!)

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978 About

978 About is a takeout pattern based on the 4-handed siteswap 978.

It was first juggled for a whole round at the 2024 EJC by Adrian, Lukas and Cameron.

Doreen, Nicki and Cameron juggled it for a third of a round at Coastless Con 2019, as described here

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Wiebke’s Waltz

Wiebke’s Waltz is a Phoenician Waltz inspired take out pattern on a walking pps feed (the same base pattern as zippy)

It was developed and presented at the 2023 coastless con along with variants in the “wedding waltz” family.

In the pattern, the carry and steal of the subsequent substitution are replaced with a ‘clink’, to toast the Happy couple. This is followed by a phoenetitian waltz turn for another substitute, and a phoenetitian waltz style intercept in preparation for the next clink.

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Fallen Angels

Fallen Angels is a manipulator pattern where the manipulator is doing left handed Champi and the jugglers are juggling a three count vs pass pass self walking feed.

It was first juggled at the 2024 BJC by Jon, Ed, Katie and Cameron. The base pattern was figured out by Katie, Ed and Cameron.

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Champix

Champix is Champi with an extra club.
Champi is a 3 person pattern composed by Ed Clark, the extra club was added by Cameron Ford.
First juggled by Helena, Adrian and Cameron at the Ramsgate British Juggling Convention, April 2023. Andy helped us practice it.

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